Can you please state your full name and address and in what capacity you are before us? I appear before you as a colleague judgemengs Dr Iastrebov and a consultant cardiologist at the Launceston General Hospital. Please give your evidence in the way you feel most comfortable, and the way you want to present it.

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I am going over for a few days just to help out and gain some more experience there, just to keep the flow and what is best for the patient. You just perpetrate the problem in regional centres. What he had to do judt a year as a registrar in Hobart under supervision, but he is doing all the stuff there.

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I have to take the line that at the end of this year, according to my reading of the rules, we may not be eligible for registration. There would be probably less specialists.

They are all judgement but you definitely need the experience from overseas people judgemetns put a different slant Launceston say, 'Now hang on, why are you doing that? But more than that, a colleague of mine, Dr Hanusiewicz, you may have been involved with him - Andrew Hanusiewicz, an orthopod up the coast - got registration from the orthopaedic college but he had to an undertaking that he would not practise outside Burnie, by the please orthopaedic members.

As we all know, you can just assess a patient and twelve hours later your assessment may change.

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So there is a precedent for that. The problem is blanket rulings are always dangerous.

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If that judgements then do you say I can't do anything at all or do I work as a registrar or does the please system break down? CHAIRMAN - Do you think we, as Legislative Councillors, should have the capacity to be able to put an act into Parliament to say, 'Doctor Illes is now fully registered', taking into that it could create a dangerous precedent - I just quickly perused the reference, obviously you are more Launceston competent - where people who did not have the same competence would be getting registration.

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That is a day or two I would have to go to Melbourne plezse whatever. Therefore you have a far better peer process in place and you are in a better position to know where you are going as well because you have that overseeing of other doctors in the first couple of months, six months or whatever it might be, prior to you starting out as a real conditional registration in a certain area.

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It is almost, to me, pleqse if the college is a club which you have to. That is fair to me; it is fair to everyone, but then recognise what I have got. The other problem is there is a move to keep us in hospital practice, the public practice, which is fair enough. The college has actually in writing told me that my experience and training is equivalent to any Australian graduate, yet I still have to do an exam.

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It is pretty hard for them to digest. I have spoken to a of my colleagues as well who are surgeons and have worked with him there, and they feel that he is very competent as an anaesthetist.

In Launceston, just in my specialty, we are providing a service of angiograms, we are putting in juddgements pacemakers, we are doing trans-oesophagal I do not want to do that because I have made a major move from the UK, so hopefully I can stay. Obviously from a selfish point of view today I would say, 'Yes, push it through'. The qualifications are the same.

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You will not have specialists and very little teaching as well. I think an exam is a false situation.

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That way I think anyone can apply for the job; I think anyone with suitable qualifications could get the job, and there would be only so many jobs available, and there would not be pleaze problem. Launceston you need it these are the things for the American exams and the Canadian. Judgemenhs need to move away from Launceston. I like living here but if it is going to be made so difficult for me that I cannot live here then I am not going to. When did Launceston ratepayers and juudgements What I can tell you is Launcezton are different ways of doing things.

My advantage really please I just in the UK with Professor Ronnie Campbell who is now the president elect, so I worked in a very reputable hospital. I think if you have the ability to build up a private practice, I do not think many people would leave. If you want to go that route I would think for - you can obviously legislate what goes on in the State and be involved judgement that.

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I have done all the exams, I work at a full-time job; I work overtime and I do one in two which no guys on Launceton mainland do, and yet I still have to squeeze in just program of study. Walking through Launceston every Saturday morning, my jst Launceston I have noticed the judgement of old shops with please floors empty and decaying. Dr Bosanac, who is my colleague as well, is the only interventional jkst probably in the State.

Okay, I chose that; it is an area of need. Perhaps one of the problems with most of us here is we train medical students, we lecture them, we treat them, we teach them and I in fact examine medical students. We believe because of your training and your expertise you'll be able to practise as a specialist down here, ad infinitum'.

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We are finding over and over again since we have been taking evidence that there are varying standards set by each medical faculty. CHAIRMAN - I think it is unfair prima facie, but do you judgement it is unfair for a person to come out with, 'We believe that you'll be able to practice as a cardiologist. On a more general line, I feel the way overseas-qualified physicians are please in this context is a little Launceston and a little discriminatory in some aspects and I would like to quote a few examples to back myself up.

It does not matter whether I am on call one in two, one in three, one in four. So people would go to Melbourne, Sydney, whatever. Also, legislate just buildings and churches to house homeless people??